# Read Italo Calvino

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**Category:** Inspiration\
**Tags:** settings\
**Created:** [July 7, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200 "2023-07-07T03:31:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/unclevova/32/919_2.png) [@unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/unclevova)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/1 "2023-07-07T03:31:36Z")

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Whenever I read inspiration lists or find the More Reading section of a game I like, I am disappointed that I never see **Italo Calvino**.

He writes deceptively simply. I don’t know if it’s because of translation but he mentions enormous ideas almost casually and as a matter of course.

If you like weird and fantastic, read Calvino. In order of my favourites:

- Invisible Cities
- Cosmicomics
- Adam, One Afternoon, and Other Stories

For bonus points, check into his experimental literature (some of what we would call prescient because the concepts he deals with have become integrated into modern technology); and his relationship to the Oulipo movement.

Have you read any Calvino? Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![yochaigal](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/yochaigal/32/1912_2.png) [@yochaigal](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/yochaigal)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 11:20am UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/2 "2023-07-07T11:20:11Z")

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His Folktales are also a great source of inspiration. Witches and such, tales form Italy.

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**Author:** ![SymbolicCity](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/symboliccity/32/614_2.png) [@SymbolicCity](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/SymbolicCity)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/3 "2023-07-07T13:23:12Z")

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_The Castle of Crossed Destinies_ is hugely germane to RPGs, particularly given the recent explosion of tarot-based solo games. It’s two variations on the same idea: A group of strangers meet and use a deck of cards to communicate their stories to one another. An exploration of the use of archetypes and programmatic storytelling and building narratives into matrices rather than strictly linear accounts. Along with Kawabata’s _The Master of Go_, it’s one of the biggest influences on my thinking about the intersection of games and art.

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**Author:** ![Skullboy](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/skullboy/32/898_2.png) [@Skullboy](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/Skullboy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/4 "2023-07-07T13:49:16Z")

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I read a few of the chapters from Invisible Cities for a drawing class in college. I seem to remember the phrase “a city where golden violins are made” and it absolutely shifted the way I wrote adventures and descriptions of places.

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**Author:** ![BrianL](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/brianl/32/895_2.png) [@BrianL](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/BrianL)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/5 "2023-07-07T15:36:14Z")

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I love Calvino’s work, and he writes so beautifully.

One of my favourite books of his is _If on a winter’s night a traveler_, which could well be the most railroad-y Choose Your Own Adventure book ever. 😀

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**Author:** ![rayotus](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rayotus](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/rayotus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/6 "2023-07-07T17:57:42Z")

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I’ve only read Invisible Cities. It was great and felt very inspirational, and yet I don’t remember taking away much from it that I actually used. One of the coolest cities I remember is the one where they arrange the dead in tableaus under the city so that there is a whole other “scene” going on down there. The city above is drab by comparison.

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**Author:** ![unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/unclevova/32/919_2.png) [@unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/unclevova)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/7 "2023-07-07T18:39:19Z")

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I think that might be my only contention with Invisible Cities, sometimes they are so fantastic and so absurd that it would be too difficult to shoehorn a Calvino city into an existing setting/campaign.

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**Author:** ![SymbolicCity](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/symboliccity/32/614_2.png) [@SymbolicCity](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/SymbolicCity)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/8 "2023-07-08T21:09:21Z")

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That’s what Troika!'s for.

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**Author:** ![alonein\_thelabyrinth](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/alonein_thelabyrinth/32/855_2.png) [@alonein\_thelabyrinth](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/alonein_thelabyrinth)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/9 "2023-07-09T10:11:57Z")

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Generally I find reading lists for games tend to focus on materials that had a direct influence on the game itself. I get your disappointment (Italo Calvino fan) but I’m not sure I really see his influence in many commercial games, so his absence from “Appendix \*\*\*\*” is not really surprising!

I think a setting book with a similar format to _Invisible Cities_ (explorer in dialogue with a ruler), maybe with a series of tables after would be a) a fun and inspirational read and b) a fun and inspirational project in which to participate!

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**Author:** ![unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/unclevova/32/919_2.png) [@unclevova](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/unclevova)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/10 "2023-07-09T19:02:51Z")

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I can understand that, maybe it’s the prose that makes it stand out extra to me, making it more memorable.

Maybe PCs have an audience with the ruler and they each describe a city they visited, then the GM chooses one to explore. Could be Beak, Feather, and Bone style, or anthropological vignettes, or uncovering the mystery of the city/debunking the legends, or…

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**Author:** ![ATellingEllipsis](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/atellingellipsis/32/671_2.png) [@ATellingEllipsis](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/ATellingEllipsis)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 10:35am UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/11 "2023-07-14T10:35:39Z")

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I agree that I’m not _disappointed_ to see the reference because I’m not really expecting it. I do also agree that people who haven’t read Calvino would probably enjoy it! I got a copy of Guy Pradel’s Archol recently and was pleased by the resemblance to Invisible Cities.

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**Author:** ![eeldip](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/eeldip/32/1822_2.png) [@eeldip](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/eeldip)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/12 "2025-01-10T17:52:56Z")

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besides the writing itself, my big takeaway was that MOTIF is important to RPGs, and not to be afraid to just really lay into it, and not be subtle. that once players start sensing a motif, they start anticipating it, and that opens up DESIGN POSSIBILITIES. you can set up challenges that are overcome by mastery of motif, which is kinda neat.

very important for FANTASY, in that, I think magic should NOT follow any sort of real world logic (should be freed from the shackles of cause and effect). using motif is much more satisfying.

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**Author:** ![Stepnix](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/stepnix/32/1184_2.png) [@Stepnix](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/Stepnix)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/13 "2025-01-10T19:47:07Z")

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italo calvino is like the one point of overlap between lancer and his majesty the worm

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**Author:** ![dereel](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/user_avatar/discourse.rpgcauldron.com/dereel/32/1054_2.png) [@dereel](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/u/dereel)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.rpgcauldron.com/t/read-italo-calvino/1200/14 "2025-01-14T18:40:17Z")

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Great! I say we need more cultural exchanges. Great games come from what we feed them from music and the orther arts.